The people complaining about "lack of content" and the people defending this game are talking past each other.

2021.10.15 22:41 MapoTofu_Over_Rice The people complaining about "lack of content" and the people defending this game are talking past each other.

The same argument has been mad ad-nauseum since the early betas. People who have reached end game complain that the game "lacks content." Defenders of the game point to the sheer amount of hours spent playing this game within the first few weeks and then say something along the lines of "you got your money's worth." Comparisons are made to other MMOs on release or single player games. I think it's important to make clear what the Complainers are actually talking about.
The Complainers
These people are likely MMO veterans and are used to the MMO genre of video games, which is vastly different from all other genres--especially single player games. Single player games are meant to be played for a while and then dropped. Games like Cyberpunk, Skyrim (without mods), Mass Effect, are not meant to be played regularly over the course of many years. For these games, you can measure "content" by hours invested and a general accounting of "things to do."
MMOs are a different beat. MMOs are meant to be played regularly over the course of many years. How do they achieve this? A few methods:
- Time gating content. Most MMOs limit the amount of times you can do end-game stuff for end-game gear to once a week, or once a day, or something similar. This forces you to play every week or every day if you want to maximize efficiency.
- Locking desirable items/content/perks behind extreme grinds. Houses are expensive, leveling crafting takes a long time, and all of these barriers are set to such a quantity that forces players to play more of the game.
These two things drastically inflate MMO playtime beyond what one would expect for other game genres. 100 hours spent in an MMO does not reflect "amount of content" the same way 100 hours spent in Cyberpunk does. The Complainers are not saying "I don't have enough things to do." Sure, there are "things to do." You can chop trees. You can fish. You can make furniture. You can complete town board quests. Depending on how minute you want to delineate tasks, there are countless things to do in New World.
What the Complainers are talking about is a lack of MMO content. What is MMO content? MMO content can be described as fun, challenging, repeatable, multiplayer activities (to be played with friends) that players can do to progress or earn rewards to flex (like furniture). In most games, this is most commonly dungeons, arenas, or raids. By contrast, crafting/gathering are activities you can do that are only solo (often times to the exclusion of your friends in the event of gathering nodes), challenging only to the extent they take a long time, and "fun" only to the extent you define "fun" as relaxing/zen.
In New World, what MMO content is there?
Dungeons
As you level, there are 4 dungeons. At end game, there are I think two more. Are they fun? Yes. The end game dungeons in particular are very fun. Are they repeatable? Only to an extent. First, they're limited by tuning orbs. This is a mix of time gating content and locking desirable content--a method of extending MMO playtime. However, all dungeons are locked behind these gates. You have to run a long time to get to the dungeon entrance, have to endure significant durability loss to enjoy them if you're trying to challenge yourself, and/or have to expend times and resources collecting orbs. Dungeons are not freely or easily repeatable. Include the lack of a matchmaking interface, and it adds another barrier--forming a group. This piece of MMO content, while already limited in quantity, is further limited by all of these barriers that make it a chore to participate. This restrict the amount of MMO content players can access within a certain amount of time (like an evening of gaming with their friends).
Arenas
There are none. Outpost rush doesn't work, and even if it does, it's a single mode that involves 20 players per faction. It may be fun and highly repeatable, easily accessible, and offer good rewards. Don't know yet.
Raids
Afaik, there's one--the Spriggan. I haven't done it, but it seems to suffer from the same problem as Dungeons.
Open World PvP
This is arguably the biggest "MMO Content" in the game. It's freely accessible, and you can group up with your buds to roam. Is it reliably repeatable? Certainly not. People have reported hours spent running around meeting no flagged players. Is it fun? Only when you have a chance at winning. It is no fun running around solo flagged and bumping into zergs, dealing with 2v10 fights, or running into someone way higher level than you. It is very fun to do balanced small skirmishes or impromptu duels. How often do those happen? Very rarely.
Portals
They don't work at end game. The non-endgame portals are repeatable sure, but are they really that fun? If they're fun for you, great. But for a lot of people, they don't consider this "MMO Content" the same way people don't consider Destiny 2 public events or FFXIV fates "MMO Content."
Wars/Invasions
It's debatable whether these are fun in their current state, but let's assume they are. Are they accessible/repeatable? Absolutely not, for obvious reasons. It's possible for many players to play this game for a long time and never get to participate. Even if this is "MMO Content," it's content only accessible to a small portion of a population.
Quests
The main quests or side quests are can only be done once, so they are not repeatable. Whether they're fun or not is debatable, but even if you assume they are, quests are limited and can be exhausted. If you think the repeatable PvE kill/loot faction quests are fun content, then sure, this game has a lot of "MMO content." Most people do not consider them fun.
Conclusion
This post doesn't touch on any bugs or "unfinished" aspects of the game, which is an entirely different discussion. I just wanted to address the whole "you've played 300 hours, how can you talk about lack of content?" positions. Yes, there are multiple zones in this game. Yes, there are enemies to fight, weapons to level, crafting skills to grind, and loot to pick up. You can spend 300 hours doing those things. But for what? Just for the sake of doing it? MMOs live and die by end game content, because if your whole point is "you've played 300 hours, you've got your money's worth, stop complaining about content," then you are suggesting people play through the game to max level, do all the quests, do the dungeons a few times, then quit until the next expansion. Is that a MMO you want to play?
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2021.10.15 22:41 PFC_Troaway99 35M with Retirement Savings - Should I Start Spending More (saving less)?

So for starters, I understand this is a pretty controversial topic in this subreddit. PFC is very much about saving and saving. But, hear me out and provide some external opinions!
I am 35, I make about 105k/yr and I have a Defined Benefit Pension Plan at work where I will hit my 'target date' for an unreduced pension at 60 years of age in 2044. Pension will be roughly 60% of my best 4 years, so for inflation and ease of calculations lets say 60k in today's money.
I have been saving pretty diligently about 20% of my net income in addition to my pension payments for the past 6 years (pay has increased over time and I have maintained the 20% net value). When including my pension, I save about 30% of my net pay, for what that's worth.
I currently have ~$156,000 in registered investments (3 ETF Portfolio from couch potato). I have a property that I am renting out that I recently spent $57,000 of my savings for a down payment on. That property 'loses' ~ $150 a month after everything said and done. I have no debt at all other than the mortgage on this property.
I was saving $1,200 a month into TFSA / RRSP prior to the investment property. Now I am putting $900 into TFSA / RRSP and $300 into the property ($150 to cover costs, $150 for inevitable costs such as new fridge, maintenance, repairs, etc.) each month.
Simple math says with the current value of my investments, and continuing to save at $900/mo until I am 60 (2044), with a 5% rate of return I will have ~$975,000 in investments. At this point, the property will also be paid off (assuming I don't sell at some point) and I will start collecting my pension.
Between the almost $1mill in retirement savings, ~$60k in pension, and possible investment property paid off, I am wondering if I am saving too much at the cost of enjoying myself more today.
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I guess I find myself in 'want' of another hundred bucks or so a month to fund my hobbies and interests, but after so many years of extremely diligent saving, I feel like reducing the amount I save (as opposed to increasing, which I have done as I make more money), is a step in the wrong direction. Am I wrong?
Does anything here seem out of place? Should I be okay to start spending a bit more given the above? I will re-adjust if necessary and this isn't a "from now until forever" type decision.

Thanks in advance for all the insightful comments I am sure to have from this sub. Have a great weekend everyone!
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2021.10.15 22:41 Smokes420247 This is your challenge should you chose to accept: make me a deck with only these cards

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1, These are all the cards that can be used nothing more (except the commander)
2, the deck must be tournament legal and fairly competitive
(BONUS POINTS IF YOU CAN SQUEEZE NICOLE BOLAS INTO IT)
(Available cards)
Planeswalkers
1 Jace, Architect of Thought
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Vraska the Unseen
Creatures
1 Aeon Chronicler1 Æther Adept1 Æther Figment1 Archaeomancer1 Body Double1 Chronomaton1 Crosstown Courier1 Dream Stalker1 Errant Ephemeron1 Jace's Mindseeker1 Jace's Phantasm1 Krovikan Mist1 Leyline Phantom1 Merfolk Wayfinder1 Phantasmal Bear1 Phantasmal Dragon1 Riftwing Cloudskate1 Sea Gate Oracle1 Stealer of Secrets 1 Ageless Entity 1 Ajani's Pridemate1 Briarhorn1 Canyon Wildcat1 Essence Warden1 Firemane Angel1 Fleetfoot Panther1 Grazing Gladehart1 Jade Mage1 Kird Ape1 Loam Lion1 Loxodon Hierarch1 Marisi's Twinclaws1 Nacatl Hunt-Pride1 Pride of Lions1 Qasali Pridemage1 Spitemare 1 Sylvan Ranger1 Wild Nacatl1 Woolly Thoctar 1 Blazing Specter1 Brackwater Elemental1 Dimir Cutpurse1 Fire-Field Ogre 1Hellfire Mongrel1 Igneous Pouncer1 Jhessian Zombies1 Morgue Toad1 Moroii1 Nightscape Familiar1 Ogre Savant1 Shriekmaw1 Slavering Nulls1 Steamcore Weird1 Surveilling Sprite 1 Acidic Slime1 Corpse Traders1 Death-Hood Cobra1 Drooling Groodion1 Festerhide Boar 1 Gatecreeper Vine1 Highway Robber1 Mold Shambler1 Nekrataal1 Ohran Viper1 Oran-Rief Recluse1 Pulse Tracker1 Putrid Leech1 Reaper of the Wilds1 River Boa1 Sadistic Augermage1 Shadow Alley Denizen1 Slate Street Ruffian1 Spawnwrithe1 Stonefare Crocodile1 Tavern Swindler1 Vinelasher Kudzu1 Wight of Precinct Six
Sorcerys
1 Spelltwine 1 Lead the Stampede1 Titanic Ultimatum1 Cruel Ultimatum1 Deep Analysis1 Pain // Suffering1 Profane Command1 Rise // Fall1 Slave of Bola 1 Hypnotic Cloud1 Marsh Casualties1 Night's Whisper1 Treasured Find
Instants
1 Griptide1 Into the Roil1 Jace's Ingenuity1 Memory Lapse1 Prohibit1 Ray of Command1 Remand1 Summoner's Bane 1 Thought Scour 1 Lightning Helix1 Naya Charm 1Sylvan Bounty 1 Agonizing Demise1 Countersquall1 Grixis Charm1 Recoil1 Spite // Malice1 Undermine1 Vapor Snag 1 Consume Strength1 Grisly Spectacle1 Last Kiss1 Tragic Slip
Enchantments
1 Agoraphobia1 Claustrophobia1 Control Magic1 Future Sight 1 Ajani's Mantra1 Griffin Guide 1 Recumbent Bliss1 Searing Meditation 1 Elder Mastery 1 Stab Wound1 Underworld Connections
Artifacts
1 Behemoth Sledge 1 Icy Manipulator 1 Obelisk of Grixis
Lands
1 Dread Statuary 1 Halimar Depths 1 Evolving Wilds1 Graypelt Refuge 1Jungle Shrine1 Kazandu Refuge 1 Sapseep Forest1 Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree 1 Crumbling Necropolis 1 Rupture Spire 1Terramorphic Expanse 1 Golgari Guildgate1 Rogue's Passage 1 Tainted Wood
28 islands. 17 forests. 20 swamps. 6 plains and 8 mountains.
Thank you to anyone who attempts this
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But it's rare for me to receive a random message asking me how I am, how I'm feeling at the moment, or if I just want to go on a silent walk.
There are so many things on my mind and I could choose to vent, but I don't think I am that type. I think I am a calm person who enjoys the simple things, good food with good company, walks, and the ocean.
A bit about me: I'm a graduate student trying to finish (soon, I say). Educated, professional. I like to cycle, run, and to travel when one can.
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